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« on: June 14, 2010, 06:58:09 PM »

I have some play in my D35 pinion. I figure maybe the nut backed off a little. It was a little too easy to tighten it back up but I torqued it to 200 ft/lbs and checked it again and there is still a good amount of play in it. I should be able to hand tighten in to take the play out. I tried torquing it a little more and it does not want to turn. bad crush sleeve? The nut pulls everything on the pinion together and thats the only thing I could come up with... any ideas before I waste time on a D35 instead of working on something that I would rather be doing?
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2010, 07:00:16 PM »

Where is the play.  In and out or sideways?
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2010, 07:02:21 PM »

in and out. if I grab the yoke and push it in it turns slightly as it rotates on the ring gear (I am guessing)
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2010, 07:07:28 PM »

I hear no bearing noises when I rotate the pinon. I thought maybe my bearings were f'd but I'm not sure if I would only hear that if there was preload. I can see a few threads on the pinion when the nut is tightened down. Which is the farthest on there I have seen it...
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2010, 07:08:31 PM »

I don't honestly know what it could be, but my guess would be crush sleeve.  With crush sleeves, you don't go to xxxft/lbs.  You tighten until you get the proper rotating force on the pinion.   

But the fact that you took it to 200ftlbs and it still wiggles is puzzling.
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2010, 07:17:05 PM »

The service manual says to tighten it to 200ft/lbs and then do 5ft/lb increments until you get the proper rotational torque. It also says if you get to 350ft/lbs then you have a defective crush sleeve. I don't want to have to go there...
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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2010, 08:53:43 PM »

I got the parts from Crown Jeff (THANKS!!!) and I put the new crush sleeve in and the same thing is going on. I drained the diff and took a look inside and I have a broken tooth on one of my spider gears. I don't think that has anything to do with the play in the pinon but it has to be torn apart anyway. Now I need to decide if I'm going to take 2 months to do it myself or a week to pay someone...
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2010, 10:04:24 PM »

just do it.
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2010, 10:22:19 PM »

start looking for a tj 44 or 8.8 at this point. more and more people are 1-toning bound to be some cheapy's out there
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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2010, 09:13:42 PM »

start looking for a tj 44 or 8.8 at this point. more and more people are 1-toning bound to be some cheapy's out there

I did look real quick to see if there was anything local but nothing. Plus in less than a year I hope to be one of those upgrading to tons (hopefully, I want to get the truck close to done first)

just do it.

I flip flopped about 8 times today about whether I was going to or not and then I thought... "what would BigD do?" So I bought some diamond plate and put some vice grips on my POS battery terminal.  Wink

then I came back to reality and disassembled my axle. Anyone removed the spider gears from a trac lok case? The FSM has some specialized tools (obviously) but I found few sources that say otherwise.
http://www.ringpinion.com/ContentFrame.aspx?FilePath=Content%2fParts%2fLockers%2f%2fTrac-Loc_Assembly_Made_Easy.inc
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2010, 09:47:55 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2010, 09:56:09 PM »

I have an idea....weld the spiders!
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2010, 10:57:19 PM »

spiders are easy to replace. If you do not want to do them, bring it to me. I might even cut you a deal, cause general consensus says your pretty cool
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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2010, 11:05:18 PM »

brooksy = cool
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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2010, 07:26:19 AM »

spider gears are simple.  Jay probably has a set of them in the d35 spares we have if ypou need them too.
but will that cure your ailments
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